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How much protein in grams do I need at 81 kg on 1,100 kcal a day?

Asked 21 May 2024Modified 23 months agoViewed 38k times
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The case in front of me: 81 kg · 1,100 kcal.

I want the working, not the result — I need to be able to redo it with different numbers.

I care about the precision as well as the value — I want to know how many figures are real.

Where is my error, and what is the correct working?

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askedanouk_desmet16k3821 May 2024
5Are you training at all? That single fact changes the answer more than anything else. – sian_llewellyn 6 months ago
4Worth adding the rate of loss, because most of this tracks it. – m_haraldsen 4 months ago
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130 to 178 g a day. The range the resistance-training literature supports is 1.6 to 2.2 g per kilogram, which at 81 kg is 130–178 g. At 4 kcal per gram that is 518–713 kcal, or 47–65 per cent of a 1,100 intake — which is why protein has to be planned first at this energy level rather than fitted in afterwards. Split it across three or four servings; roughly 0.4 g/kg per meal saturates the synthetic response and the surplus in one large serving does not carry over.

This is one of the better-evidenced areas in nutrition and the disagreements are about the top of the range, not the bottom.

The leucine threshold for triggering the response is around two and a half to three grams per meal. Thirty grams of most animal protein reaches it; thirty grams of many plant proteins does not, which is why plant-based targets run higher.

Protein target arithmetic

Body mass1.2 g/kg1.6 g/kg2.0 g/kgPer meal at 1.6 (÷3)
62 kg74 g99 g124 g33 g
74 kg89 g118 g148 g39 g
88 kg106 g141 g176 g47 g
103 kg124 g165 g206 g55 g
124 kg149 g198 g248 g66 g

At roughly 4 kcal per gram, 141 g of protein is about 564 kcal — a substantial fraction of a 900 kcal budget, which is the real constraint.

Older adults need more per meal to overcome anabolic resistance, with 1.2 to 1.5 g/kg daily commonly quoted for maintenance and more in a deficit.

Leucine threshold effects are documented across protein sources and explain the difference in per-serving requirements between animal and plant proteins.

Nothing here is dietetic or medical advice.

Healthy kidneys tolerate this fine. Diseased ones are a clinical question.

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answered · acceptedsian_llewellyn65k14711 Aug 2024
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Answer first: aim for 1.6 to 2.2 grams per kilogram of reference body weight per day, distributed across three or four servings, and treat it as the first constraint on the day rather than the last.

Per meal, roughly 0.4 grams per kilogram saturates the synthetic response in most adults, which is about 30 to 40 grams for a typical person. Beyond that the surplus is oxidised or used for other purposes rather than adding to synthesis.

The part that matters: high protein intakes do not damage healthy kidneys in the published evidence; existing kidney disease is a genuine exception and is a clinical question.

Research-use compounds are not approved for human use, and no supplement substitutes for total intake.

1.6 to 2.2 g/kg of reference weight, split three or four ways. That is the answer.

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answeredsasha_ferreira9.4k152 Sept 2024
2The point about protein being hardest to eat exactly when it matters most is well made. – tyndall_haze 4 months ago
3Thank you — this is the answer I was looking for. – tare_weight 6 months ago
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Answering this needs to know whether appetite is suppressed, because in this class the practical problem is achieving intake rather than choosing a target.

Appetite suppression makes protein-rich foods harder to eat because they are satiating. Liquid protein and leaner, less voluminous sources are the usual practical workaround.

A practical construction: 30 to 40 grams at each of three meals plus a 20 to 30 gram snack covers most targets without any protein powder at all.

Meta-analytic estimates place the plateau of the dose-response for lean-mass retention with resistance training around 1.6 g/kg, with a confidence interval extending to about 2.2.

Plant-based patterns need a higher total and more attention per serving.

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answeredsian_llewellyn65k14713 Sept 2024
Small correction: lean mass on a scan is not muscle, which this says and people miss. – plate_count_9k 5 days ago
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