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How do I interpret an HbA1c trend across three draws?

Asked 17 May 2024Modified 22 months agoViewed 67k times
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This is a question about interpretation, not about whether to act — I will take action questions elsewhere.

I would like to know the limits of what can be inferred from this.

What I am trying to avoid is over-reading a single result, which I have done before.

What can I legitimately conclude from this figure?

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askedhaze_check9.3k1617 May 2024
4Is there a repeat draw, or is this a single value? One value is a point, not a trend. – dana_wexler 10 months ago
5Which equation produced the eGFR? They disagree by enough to matter at the margins. – Dr_Ravi_Selvarajah 43 days ago
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Start with a baseline. A result taken before anything started converts most later ambiguity into a simple comparison, and it cannot be obtained retrospectively.

Haemolysis in the sample raises potassium and several enzymes spuriously. If a result is bizarre, ask whether the sample was flagged before building a theory on it.

Headline results, principal programmes

TrialAgentnDurationPrimary result
STEP 1Semaglutide 2.4 mg1,96168 wk−14.9 % vs −2.4 % weight
STEP 2Semaglutide 2.4 mg, T2DM1,21068 wk−9.6 % vs −3.4 % weight
SURMOUNT-1Tirzepatide 5/10/15 mg2,53972 wk−15 / −19 / −21 % weight
SURMOUNT-4Tirzepatide, withdrawal67088 wkContinued loss vs substantial regain
SELECTSemaglutide 2.4 mg17,604~40 moMACE HR 0.80 (0.72–0.90)
FLOWSemaglutide 1.0 mg, CKD3,533~3.4 yrRenal composite reduced; stopped early
SURMOUNT-OSATirzepatide, OSA46952 wkAHI reduced with and without PAP

Repeat before you react. A single abnormal value has a substantial probability of being within the combined biological and analytical variation of a normal one.

Biological variation data are published per analyte and are the basis for the reference change value — the difference between two results that is larger than noise.

Nothing here is medical advice. If something is out of range and you do not know why, that is a consultation rather than a research project.

One out-of-range value on a twenty-analyte panel is expected. Two on a repeat is a finding.

edited 20 Aug 2024 by juan_esquivel — corrected a unit error in the worked example

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answered · acceptedjuan_esquivel14k1625 Jul 2024
2Is the assay method stated on your report? Two immunoassays for the same analyte do not agree with each other. – assay_blank 2 months ago
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Answering this needs to distinguish screening from monitoring. A screening panel looks for the unexpected; a monitoring panel tracks something you already have a reason to watch.

Keep the reports rather than the numbers. Units, reference intervals and methods all vary, and a bare number two years later is not comparable to anything.

A twenty-analyte panel run on a healthy person will produce, on average, one out-of-range result purely from how reference intervals are constructed. That is arithmetic rather than pathology.

Pre-analytical factors — posture, tourniquet time, fasting, sample handling — are the largest source of error in routine biochemistry, well ahead of the analysis itself.

Research-use compounds are not approved for human use, and no panel makes that safer.

Baseline first, then a repeat under identical conditions. Everything else is secondary.

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answeredzeynep_arslan16k2613 Jul 2024
8Worth adding that the collection tube and how long the tourniquet was on move several of these analytes. – ines_brandt 16 days ago
7Adding for future readers: ask for the reference interval printed beside the result, not just the flag. – charge_state_3 9 months ago
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The honest position is that most people order too many analytes and too few time points, when the reverse would be more informative.

Same laboratory, same method, same time of day, same fasting state. Between-laboratory differences on several common analytes are larger than the changes people are trying to detect.

Put another way, a sensible core for this population is a full blood count, renal function with electrolytes, liver enzymes with bilirubin, a fasting lipid panel with apolipoprotein B, HbA1c and thyroid-stimulating hormone.

Reference intervals are conventionally the central ninety-five per cent of a reference population, which is the direct cause of the one-in-twenty out-of-range rate on a healthy panel.

Decide the action for each result before you order the test.

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answeredrosa_mendieta8k1621 Jun 2024
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The short version: a small, well-chosen panel with a baseline beats a large one without.

Timing matters per analyte: cortisol and testosterone are diurnal, triglycerides are postprandial, and creatinine responds to hydration and to recent training. Fixing the conditions removes most of the noise.

External quality assurance schemes document between-laboratory differences on common analytes that routinely exceed the size of clinically interesting changes.

Same laboratory, same time, same fasting state, or the comparison is not a comparison.

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answerednet_peptide12k152 Jul 2024
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Standardise the conditions — same time of day, same fasting state, same laboratory — or you are measuring the conditions rather than yourself.

Delta checks — comparing against your own previous value — are far more sensitive than comparing against a population interval, which is the argument for keeping a series rather than a snapshot.

SELECT reported a hazard ratio of 0.80 (95% CI 0.72–0.90) for the primary composite major adverse cardiovascular event endpoint with semaglutide 2.4 mg in overweight or obese adults with established cardiovascular disease and without diabetes[1].

Ordering tests you will not act on generates anxiety and incidental findings, both of which have costs.

Keep the full report, not the number. You will need the units and the interval later.

edited 19 Sept 2024 by cold_lane — fixed an arithmetic slip in the third paragraph

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answeredcold_lane10k1627 Aug 2024

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