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How many freeze-thaw cycles will cagrilintide at 2.5 mg/mL tolerate?

Asked 6 May 2024Modified 23 months agoViewed 44k times
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Numbers first: cagrilintide · 2.5 mg/mL.

I would like to understand the steps well enough to explain them to someone else.

I have access to a refrigerator with a logger and a freezer without one, which may be relevant.

So: what is the actual procedure, and which steps matter as opposed to being ritual?

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Nobody has published a cycle count, and at 2.5 mg/mL the concentration tells you what a wrong guess costs: a 0.1 mL aliquot holds 0.25 mg and every microlitre is 2.5 µg. Damage from freezing is not gradual attrition — it is concentrated at the phase transitions, where ice excludes solute and the unfrozen fraction climbs well above 2.5 mg/mL for as long as the transition lasts. Two slow cycles can therefore do more than four fast ones, which is why a cycle count is the wrong unit in the first place. The way to make the number one is to make it one: split at reconstitution into single-draw aliquots, label each with 2.5 mg/mL and the date, and never thaw a container you will refreeze.

Answer first: each freeze-thaw cycle costs something through aggregation and pH shift, so the mitigation is aliquoting rather than choosing a better freezer.

Never refreeze a thawed aliquot. The whole point of aliquoting is that the aliquot is single-use, and refreezing it discards the benefit.

The part that matters: the mitigation is aliquoting. Divide the reconstituted solution into single-use volumes before the first freeze, and each aliquot then experiences exactly one cycle.

Aliquoting to eliminate repeated cycles is standard laboratory practice for exactly this reason.

The caveat is that aggregation is invisible in a clear solution below the threshold where it becomes visible.

Thaw slowly and never refreeze an aliquot.

edited 6 Sept 2024 by forty_two_c — reworded for clarity after a comment

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The honest answer is that people worry about the freezer temperature and should worry about the number of cycles.

A dry lyophilised powder is much less affected by a temperature cycle because there is no liquid phase for anything to concentrate into. Condensation on a cold vial opened warm is the real risk there.

Count cycles rather than worrying about degrees. Minus twenty and minus eighty differ far less than one cycle and five do.

Aliquoting itself is a handling step and introduces its own contamination opportunity.

Count cycles, not degrees. The cycle is the damaging event.

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answeredDr_Fatima_Belkacem18k2623 Jul 2024
3This should be linked from the help pages. – esther_vandeVelde 10 months ago
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The short version: aliquot before freezing, thaw slowly, never refreeze a thawed aliquot, and count your cycles.

Let a frozen vial reach room temperature before opening it. Opening a cold vial in humid air condenses water into the cake, which raises residual moisture and undoes what lyophilisation achieved.

Thaw slowly at room temperature or in the refrigerator rather than in warm water. Rapid warming creates local thermal and concentration gradients that promote aggregation.

The number of tolerable cycles is sequence- and formulation-dependent and no general number is honest.

Dry powder tolerates cycles far better than solution does.

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answeredplunger_stop13k2712 Jul 2024
7I have kept vials both ways for a year and this matches what I saw. – Dr_Fatima_Belkacem 10 months ago
8Adding a vote because this deserves more of them. – tobias_maartens 39 days ago
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Thawing at room temperature rather than in warm water reduces the interfacial stress.

During freezing, solutes are excluded from the ice lattice and concentrate into the residual liquid. Local concentrations can rise many-fold, which promotes aggregation independently of temperature.

Nothing here is medical advice, and research-use compounds are not approved for human use.

Let a frozen vial reach room temperature before opening, or you condense water into it.

edited 25 May 2024 by anja_hellstrom — tightened the wording; no substantive change

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answeredanja_hellstrom13k279 May 2024
Any published figure for how much a collapsed cake actually retains? – kwn_analytical 5 months ago
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Answering this needs to know whether the material is dry or in solution, since a dry powder is largely indifferent to a temperature cycle.

Buffer salts crystallise at different points during freezing. Sodium phosphate is the classic example: the dibasic form crystallises first and the pH of the residual liquid falls by several units. That pH excursion is the real damage in many cases.

Selective crystallisation of sodium phosphate buffer components producing large pH shifts on freezing is a classical result in the lyophilisation literature.

Aliquot before the first freeze. That is the whole answer.

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answeredhalvard_ness69k473 Aug 2024

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