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How much protein in grams do I need at 88 kg on 1,100 kcal a day?

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Concretely: 88 kg · 1,100 kcal.

Please show the division. I want to check my own against yours.

I would like the general form as well as the specific number, so I can apply it again.

Where is my error, and what is the correct working?

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In practice, the mechanism is worth having straight, because it predicts which interventions can work and which cannot.

DEXA precision is better than people assume for fat mass and worse than people assume for lean mass in a single scan — the least significant change for regional lean mass on a well-maintained scanner is on the order of a few per cent. That means two scans three months apart can differ without anything having happened, and it means a scan sequence needs to be at least three points before a trend is interpretable.

The regain trajectory after stopping is roughly a mirror of the loss trajectory, and it is not primarily a willpower phenomenon. Appetite signalling returns, energy expenditure remains suppressed relative to the original mass, and the two combine. That is an argument for a maintenance plan existing before the stop, rather than an argument against stopping.

The evidence for a higher protein intake preserving lean mass during an energy deficit is reasonably strong in resistance-trained populations and weaker in sedentary ones, with the meta-analytic estimates supporting intakes in the region of 1.6 g/kg over lower intakes when training is present[1].

A maintenance plan written before you need it is worth more than a better loss plan.

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answered · acceptedhelena_vidmar18k281 Sept 2025
3This is the first explanation of that which has actually made sense to me. – micron22 7 months ago
4Note that the label instructions differ between agents on precisely this point. – Dr_Rosalind_Achebe 8 months ago
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Specifically, the distinction that resolves this is between proportional loss and functional loss. Losing lean mass in proportion to total mass is what happens in every weight loss intervention. Losing function is not, and function is measurable.

The first four weeks of loss is substantially fluid and glycogen. Each gram of stored glycogen carries roughly three grams of water, and total glycogen is on the order of 400 to 500 g, so the obligatory water shift alone accounts for a couple of kilograms. This is why the first month looks dramatic and the second looks like a plateau when in fact the fat-loss rate has not changed.

The relevant detail is that cardio does not interfere with lean-mass retention at the volumes anyone here is doing; the interference effect in the literature appears at high concurrent volumes in trained athletes. What cardio does at a large deficit is add to the deficit, which is either the point or a problem depending on the objective.

Adaptive thermogenesis — a fall in energy expenditure beyond that predicted by the change in body composition — is documented across weight-loss interventions and is the mechanistic basis for the plateau being expected rather than anomalous.

Measure strength as well as mass. It is cheaper, it is less noisy, and it is closer to what you actually care about.

edited 4 Jun 2025 by bac_or_bust — added the placebo-arm figures

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answeredbac_or_bust37k13816 May 2025
6Note that the label instructions differ between agents on precisely this point. – vialroom 5 months ago
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