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How many times can I pierce a stopper with a 31G needle before coring?

Asked 26 Sept 2025Modified 7 months agoViewed 28k times
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This is the third vial from the same lot, so I can compare against two known-good ones.

I can find plenty of assertions about this and almost no reasoning, which is usually a sign that nobody has checked.

Assume no laboratory access beyond what I can pay a third party for.

Which parts of this are load-bearing and which parts are habit?

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askedpetra_hovland35k3826 Sept 2025

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There is no count, and 31G is why: coring is a single event, not an accumulation. A needle cores when its bevel punches a full disc of rubber instead of parting it, and that either happens on a given puncture or does not. At 31G the bore is narrow enough that any disc it cuts is small and easy to miss under inspection. Technique moves the odds far more than the count does: enter at an angle, rotate the bevel, then bring it upright — that parts the septum rather than punching it. Inspect against a dark background before every draw, because the number of punctures a stopper survives is a property of that stopper and this is the only way to find it out.

Answer first: use the largest bore you tolerate for drawing and the smallest for injecting, because the two operations have opposite requirements.

Stopper coring — punching a disc of rubber into the solution — is a large-bore phenomenon. An 18G or 21G needle inserted straight and fast is the classic way to do it; inserting at a slight angle with the bevel up reduces the risk.

Fixed-needle insulin syringes are supplied in 29G to 31G and cannot be swapped for drawing, which is the trade-off against their much lower dead space.

The Hagen–Poiseuille relation gives flow proportional to the fourth power of radius, which is the quantitative basis for every gauge recommendation here.

Higher gauge is not automatically better; it is thinner, which has costs as well as benefits.

Flow goes as the fourth power of radius. That is why the difference feels so large.

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The relevant physics is the fourth-power dependence of flow on radius, which makes small gauge differences enormous in practice.

Very fine needles are more prone to bending and to blocking with any particulate, which is a practical argument for inspecting the solution before drawing.

Typical outer diameters: 21G is about 0.82 mm, 23G about 0.64 mm, 25G about 0.51 mm, 29G about 0.34 mm and 31G about 0.26 mm. The gauge number and the diameter move in opposite directions.

Gauge numbers run backwards. Higher number, thinner needle.

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answeredDr_Ilse_Vandenberg113k24816 Oct 2025
7I have seen exactly this failure mode twice and both times it was the diluent volume. – Dr_Signe_Baldursdottir 5 months ago
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Start with the fact that gauge numbers run backwards — a higher number is a thinner needle — which is the source of half the confusion in this tag.

Flow through a needle scales with the fourth power of the internal radius under the Hagen–Poiseuille relation. Halving the radius reduces flow sixteen-fold at the same pressure, which is why a 31G needle draws so much more slowly than a 21G.

A 30G or 31G needle through a butyl stopper leaves a track that reseals, which is why fine-gauge repeated entry is tolerable and coarse-gauge repeated entry is not.

Big to draw, small to inject, never the same one twice.

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answeredshear_at_the_front17k2718 Nov 2025
7Same experience here, different supplier. – swirl_dont_shake 7 months ago
8Reading the leading edge of the stopper rather than the shoulder is worth a sentence of its own. – dead_volume 8 months ago
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Coring the stopper with a large-bore needle is the risk at the drawing end, and it is real.

For injecting, 29G to 31G is the usual range and the difference in perceived discomfort between them is small. Needle length matters more than gauge for comfort at these volumes.

Needle gauge to outer diameter correspondence is standardised and published; the inverse relationship between gauge number and diameter is the reason for the counter-intuitive labelling.

If a solution will not draw through a 25G needle, the problem is the solution rather than the needle.

Angle the bevel and insert gently to avoid coring the stopper.

edited 24 Dec 2025 by tyndall_haze — clarified the distinction between purity and content

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answeredtyndall_haze38k3829 Nov 2025
7This should be linked from the help pages. – Dr_Sara_Kuusela 10 months ago
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Specifically, for a 4 mm pen-style needle the gauge options are narrow and the choice is nearly made for you.

Drawing a viscous or foamy solution through a fine needle takes long enough that people rush the plunger, which causes more foaming. Using a wider drawing needle is the fix.

Length affects comfort more than gauge does at these volumes.

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answerede_dziedzic51k14711 Dec 2025
Confirming: I did the wrong thing here once and got exactly the predicted result. – Dr_Marek_Zielinski 3 months ago
2Would this be different for a peptide that foams? Mine does and I have never known why. – kwn_analytical 4 months ago
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