Read SURPASS-2 by arm, because the arm is the unit of randomisation and every figure worth quoting is defined at that level. A programme that randomised several dose levels reports each one separately, with its own sample size and its own interval, and the pooled number that circulates afterwards describes a group nobody was assigned to. Take the primary publication and its supplementary tables rather than a summary of them: one is organised by arm, the other by whichever figure was largest. And check the estimand — what happened to everyone assigned, or what happens to those who kept taking it — because the two answer different questions and are routinely quoted as though they were one.
The honest answer is that appetite suppression is centrally mediated and gastric emptying is peripheral, and the two contribute different amounts in different people.
Receptor density and downstream coupling differ between tissues, so the dose-response curves for glycaemia, weight and nausea are not the same curve. That is the pharmacological basis for titration.
The part that matters: gastric emptying delay attenuates with continued exposure for long-acting agents through receptor desensitisation, which is why the early nausea usually settles while the appetite effect persists.
The incretin effect itself was established by comparing the insulin response to oral and intravenous glucose loads matched for plasma glucose; the difference is what the gut hormones contribute.
Tissue distribution first, then signalling. Nearly every question in this tag resolves at the first step.
7Thank you for naming the trial programme. Half the confusion on this site is citation drift. – Dr_Ilse_Vandenberg 4 months ago add a comment