Conditions: survodutide · 37 °C.
The claim is plausible, which is exactly why I want to check it.
I am able to read a paper if someone points me at one.
Has anyone verified this independently?
Conditions: survodutide · 37 °C.
The claim is plausible, which is exactly why I want to check it.
I am able to read a paper if someone points me at one.
Has anyone verified this independently?
Probably not at 37 °C specifically, because that is not where stability programmes take their readings. Accelerated work is conventionally run at 25 °C and 40 °C, with the refrigerated condition as the control, so 37 °C sits between or beyond the published points and what you will find is bracketing rather than a measurement. 37 °C is 32 kelvin above the 5 °C middle of a 2–8 °C refrigerator. The ten-degree rule of thumb — degradation rate roughly doubling per 10 K — makes that about 9.2 times the refrigerated rate, which is an order-of-magnitude statement and not a shelf life. Whatever you find, check what was measured before you use it: a paper reporting purity at 37 °C has not measured content, and the two fail at different rates for different reasons.
Answering this needs the physical state, since a dry powder is protected from most of these and a solution is protected from none.
Oxidation targets methionine, cysteine and tryptophan, adding sixteen daltons per oxygen. It is catalysed by trace metals and promoted by dissolved oxygen and by light.
| State | Condition | Usable window | Basis |
|---|---|---|---|
| Lyophilised solid | −20 °C, sealed, dry | 24–36 months | Supplier guidance |
| Lyophilised solid | 2–8 °C, sealed | 12–24 months | Supplier guidance |
| Lyophilised solid | 25 °C, sealed | 4–8 weeks | Extrapolated (Arrhenius) |
| Lyophilised solid | 40 °C, sealed | 1–2 weeks | Extrapolated |
| Solution, preserved | 2–8 °C | 28 days | USP microbiological convention |
| Solution, preserved | 25 °C | 3–7 days | Extrapolated |
| Solution, unpreserved | 2–8 °C | 24 hours | USP microbiological convention |
Windows for the solid state are chemical; windows for solution are microbiological and usually shorter than the chemical limit.
Aggregation is physical: peptides unfold at air-liquid interfaces and associate. Shaking maximises that interface, which is why swirling and shaking produce visibly different outcomes on the same vial.
Adsorption losses at low concentrations are quantified in formulation studies and are the reason carrier proteins are used in dilute preparations.
Sequence determines which pathways apply, so general statements are general.
Swirl, never shake. Aggregation is a handling problem more than a time problem.
Aggregated, published test results and vendor ratings built from submitted batches. Methodology stated, dataset browsable, no listing fees.
Browse resultsThe relevant point is that a mass shift of plus one dalton is deamidation and plus sixteen is oxidation, so degradation is often visible in a mass spectrum if anyone looks.
Light exposure matters for tryptophan-containing sequences and for anything with a chromophore. Amber vials and a closed box are free mitigations.
A mass spectrum resolves most of this: minus eighteen is dehydration or succinimide, plus one is deamidation, plus sixteen is oxidation, and an unchanged mass with a shifted retention time is an isomer.
Deamidation via the succinimide intermediate is well characterised, with sequence-dependent rates highest for asparagine-glycine motifs.
Apparent loss in a dilute preparation is usually adsorption rather than degradation and is worth ruling out first.
A mass spectrum names the pathway. Plus one, plus sixteen, minus eighteen.
Start with the sequence, because which pathways are available depends on which residues are present.
Freeze-thaw cycling drives aggregation through concentration at the ice interface and pH shifts as buffer components crystallise out at different rates. Each cycle costs something.
Deamidation converts asparagine or glutamine to the corresponding acid via a succinimide intermediate, adding one dalton. It is base-catalysed, accelerates above neutral pH and is the dominant aqueous pathway for many peptides.
Metal-catalysed oxidation of methionine is documented across peptide and protein formulations and is why chelators appear in some formulations.
Nothing here is medical advice, and research-use compounds are not approved for human use.
Cold, dry, dark, still. Those four words cover most of the mitigation.
This is answerable from the chemistry rather than from anecdote, which is unusual and welcome.
Hydrolysis cleaves the backbone, most readily at aspartate-proline and aspartate-glycine sequences, and is acid-catalysed. In a dry solid it barely proceeds at all.
Aggregation at air-liquid interfaces is established from surface-tension and particle-count studies and is the basis for anti-agitation handling guidance.
The caveat is that none of these pathways can be seen by looking at a vial, and a clear solution can be substantially degraded.
At dilute concentrations, suspect adsorption before you suspect chemistry.
edited 11 Dec 2024 by halvard_ness — tightened the wording; no substantive change
The part that matters: asparagine and glutamine are the deamidation risk, and methionine is the oxidation risk.
Adsorption onto glass and plastic is significant at low concentrations — micrograms per millilitre — and negligible at milligrams per millilitre. It is the usual explanation for an apparent loss in a dilute preparation.
The caveat is that "within specification" and "unchanged" are different claims. A vial can lose a few per cent of content and still be usable for its purpose while no longer matching its certificate.
Sequence decides which pathways are even available. Check the residues.
Ask PeptideStack is a static archive. Posting is closed, but the norms are worth stating: answer the question that was asked, show your working, cite the trial or the certificate, and say plainly where the evidence runs out.