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Does survodutide adsorb measurably to the vial wall at 8 mg/mL?

Asked 17 Apr 2026Modified 2 months agoViewed 6.4k times
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The case in front of me: survodutide · 8 mg/mL.

I want the working, not the result — I need to be able to redo it with different numbers.

I care about the precision as well as the value — I want to know how many figures are real.

How many significant figures are actually justified here?

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askedlucia_marchetti19k2717 Apr 2026

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8 mg/mL is 8000 µg/mL — roughly 800 times the concentration at which surface adsorption is measurable. Losses to glass and plastic matter in the low microgram-per-millilitre range, where a monolayer on the wall is a real fraction of what is in solution. At 8 mg/mL that same monolayer is a rounding error. If you see an apparent loss at this concentration, suspect the dilution step or the assay before you suspect the wall.

Start with the sequence, because which pathways are available depends on which residues are present.

Adsorption onto glass and plastic is significant at low concentrations — micrograms per millilitre — and negligible at milligrams per millilitre. It is the usual explanation for an apparent loss in a dilute preparation.

Put another way, hydrolysis cleaves the backbone, most readily at aspartate-proline and aspartate-glycine sequences, and is acid-catalysed. In a dry solid it barely proceeds at all.

Metal-catalysed oxidation of methionine is documented across peptide and protein formulations and is why chelators appear in some formulations.

Nothing here is medical advice, and research-use compounds are not approved for human use.

Sequence decides which pathways are even available. Check the residues.

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answered · acceptedloss_on_drying40k13819 May 2026
7Two lots stored differently, reassayed at a year — the difference was smaller than I expected. – nominal_ten 4 months ago
6Any published figure for how much a collapsed cake actually retains? – deamidation_watch 3 months ago
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The honest answer is that most reported "degradation" is adsorption and dilution error rather than chemistry.

Aggregation is physical: peptides unfold at air-liquid interfaces and associate. Shaking maximises that interface, which is why swirling and shaking produce visibly different outcomes on the same vial.

Freeze-thaw cycling drives aggregation through concentration at the ice interface and pH shifts as buffer components crystallise out at different rates. Each cycle costs something.

Sequence determines which pathways apply, so general statements are general.

Cold, dry, dark, still. Those four words cover most of the mitigation.

edited 30 May 2026 by lyoph_cake — corrected a unit error in the worked example

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answeredlyoph_cake78k26722 May 2026
4Aliquoting before the first freeze is the advice I wish I had read two years ago. – plate_count_9k 8 months ago
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