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Does hydrolysis dominate for orforglipron held at 37 °C?

Asked 18 May 2024Modified 23 months agoViewed 34k times
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Details up front: hydrolysis · orforglipron · 37 °C.

I can predict the outcome but I cannot explain it, which means I will get the next case wrong.

I would like to know how confident the field actually is about this.

So what is the mechanism, and how well established is it?

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At 37 °C the question is which route is fastest, not whether hydrolysis happens — and the routes do not share an activation energy, so their ranking changes with temperature. 37 °C is 32 kelvin above the 5 °C middle of a 2–8 °C refrigerator. The ten-degree rule of thumb — degradation rate roughly doubling per 10 K — makes that about 9.2 times the refrigerated rate, which is an order-of-magnitude statement and not a shelf life. That multiplier is an average over every route at once, which is exactly why it cannot tell you which one wins. Backbone amide bonds cleave, so every product is shorter than the parent and the mass ladder they leave behind is the evidence that it happened. So the way to answer it for your vial is to pick the method that sees hydrolysis specifically and run it against a control held cold, rather than to infer a mechanism from a purity number that averages all of them.

Answer first: the degradation pathways worth knowing are hydrolysis, deamidation, oxidation, aggregation and adsorption, and each has a different trigger and a different mitigation.

Adsorption onto glass and plastic is significant at low concentrations — micrograms per millilitre — and negligible at milligrams per millilitre. It is the usual explanation for an apparent loss in a dilute preparation.

Degradation pathway by condition

PathwayDominant whenDetected by
DeamidationSolution, neutral to alkaline pHRP-HPLC, +1 Da on MS
OxidationLight, trace metals, peroxidesRP-HPLC, +16 Da on MS
HydrolysisSolution, extremes of pHRP-HPLC, fragment masses
AggregationAgitation, interfaces, high concentrationSEC, visual haze; often invisible on RP-HPLC
Freeze-concentration damageFreeze-thaw of buffered solutionSEC, loss of recovered content

A mass spectrum resolves most of this: minus eighteen is dehydration or succinimide, plus one is deamidation, plus sixteen is oxidation, and an unchanged mass with a shifted retention time is an isomer.

Deamidation via the succinimide intermediate is well characterised, with sequence-dependent rates highest for asparagine-glycine motifs.

The caveat is that none of these pathways can be seen by looking at a vial, and a clear solution can be substantially degraded.

Sequence decides which pathways are even available. Check the residues.

edited 4 Sept 2024 by deamidation_watch — tightened the wording; no substantive change

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answered · accepteddeamidation_watch45k5814 Aug 2024
4I would add a sentence about light, since tryptophan-containing sequences care. – e_dziedzic 2 months ago
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The short version: water enables most of it, oxygen enables oxidation, surfaces enable adsorption, and agitation enables aggregation.

Light exposure matters for tryptophan-containing sequences and for anything with a chromophore. Amber vials and a closed box are free mitigations.

Put another way, oxidation targets methionine, cysteine and tryptophan, adding sixteen daltons per oxygen. It is catalysed by trace metals and promoted by dissolved oxygen and by light.

Metal-catalysed oxidation of methionine is documented across peptide and protein formulations and is why chelators appear in some formulations.

Apparent loss in a dilute preparation is usually adsorption rather than degradation and is worth ruling out first.

At dilute concentrations, suspect adsorption before you suspect chemistry.

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answeredDr_Otto_Lindqvist72k583 Aug 2024
5I have kept vials both ways for a year and this matches what I saw. – amara_nwachukwu 9 months ago
4Adding for future readers: the domestic leg after delivery is the part you control. – b_delacroix 7 months ago
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Start with the sequence, because which pathways are available depends on which residues are present.

Hydrolysis cleaves the backbone, most readily at aspartate-proline and aspartate-glycine sequences, and is acid-catalysed. In a dry solid it barely proceeds at all.

Aggregation is physical: peptides unfold at air-liquid interfaces and associate. Shaking maximises that interface, which is why swirling and shaking produce visibly different outcomes on the same vial.

Aggregation at air-liquid interfaces is established from surface-tension and particle-count studies and is the basis for anti-agitation handling guidance.

Sequence determines which pathways apply, so general statements are general.

Swirl, never shake. Aggregation is a handling problem more than a time problem.

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answeredgradient_slope46k386 Sept 2024
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The honest answer is that most reported "degradation" is adsorption and dilution error rather than chemistry.

Deamidation converts asparagine or glutamine to the corresponding acid via a succinimide intermediate, adding one dalton. It is base-catalysed, accelerates above neutral pH and is the dominant aqueous pathway for many peptides.

Adsorption losses at low concentrations are quantified in formulation studies and are the reason carrier proteins are used in dilute preparations.

A mass spectrum names the pathway. Plus one, plus sixteen, minus eighteen.

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answeredDr_Signe_Baldursdottir29k2726 Aug 2024
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The relevant point is that a mass shift of plus one dalton is deamidation and plus sixteen is oxidation, so degradation is often visible in a mass spectrum if anyone looks.

Freeze-thaw cycling drives aggregation through concentration at the ice interface and pH shifts as buffer components crystallise out at different rates. Each cycle costs something.

Deamidation kinetics for asparagine in peptides are well characterised and strongly sequence-dependent: the residue following the asparagine dominates the rate, with glycine and serine at the n+1 position accelerating it by an order of magnitude relative to bulkier residues. That is why two peptides in the same buffer at the same temperature can have quite different shelf lives.

Nothing here is medical advice, and research-use compounds are not approved for human use.

Cold, dry, dark, still. Those four words cover most of the mitigation.

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answeredhalvard_ness69k471 Jul 2024

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