Accepted answer
Your third suspicion is correct and it is the most important thing to establish before reading any of these numbers: the figures in registration-trial safety tables are cumulative incidence of at least one event over the whole treatment period. A 44% nausea rate over 68 weeks does not mean 44% of people are nauseated at any moment. It means 44% reported nausea at least once across sixteen months. Point prevalence at a given week is a fraction of that, and it is highest in the two to three weeks after each dose step.
The numbers
Placebo columns included, because they are the whole reason the drug-attributable fraction is smaller than the headline.
| Agent and dose | Trial | Population | Duration | Nausea, active | Nausea, comparator |
| Semaglutide 2.4 mg weekly | STEP 1 [1] | Obesity, no diabetes | 68 wk | 44.2% | 17.4% placebo |
| Semaglutide 2.4 mg weekly | STEP 2 [2] | Obesity with T2DM | 68 wk | ≈32% | ≈16% placebo |
| Semaglutide 0.5 / 1.0 mg weekly | SUSTAIN 6 [3] | T2DM, high CV risk | 104 wk | ≈16% / ≈20% | ≈6% placebo |
| Semaglutide 2.4 mg weekly | SELECT [4] | Obesity with established CVD | ~40 mo | Lower than STEP 1; GI AEs the main driver of the 16.6% vs 8.2% overall discontinuation gap | Placebo |
| Oral semaglutide 14 mg daily | PIONEER programme [5] | T2DM | 26-78 wk | ≈16-20% | ≈6-10% |
| Tirzepatide 5 mg weekly | SURMOUNT-1 [6] | Obesity, no diabetes | 72 wk | 24.6% | 9.5% placebo |
| Tirzepatide 10 mg weekly | SURMOUNT-1 | Obesity, no diabetes | 72 wk | 33.3% | 9.5% placebo |
| Tirzepatide 15 mg weekly | SURMOUNT-1 | Obesity, no diabetes | 72 wk | 31.0% | 9.5% placebo |
| Tirzepatide 5-15 mg vs semaglutide 1 mg | SURPASS-2 [7] | T2DM | 40 wk | ≈17-22% across tirzepatide arms | ≈18% semaglutide 1 mg |
| Liraglutide 3.0 mg daily | SCALE [8] | Obesity | 56 wk | 40.2% | 14.7% placebo |
| Semaglutide 2.4 mg vs liraglutide 3.0 mg | STEP 8 [9] | Obesity | 68 wk | Comparable nausea rates; GI discontinuation far higher on liraglutide (13.5% vs 3.2% AE discontinuation) | Head-to-head |
| Retatrutide 1-12 mg weekly | Phase 2 [10] | Obesity | 48 wk | Up to ≈45% at the higher-dose, faster-escalation arms | ≈12-13% placebo |
| Survodutide up to 6.0 mg weekly | Phase 2 [11] | Obesity | 46 wk | ≈50-60% in the fastest-escalation arms | Placebo far lower |
| Orforglipron (oral, non-peptide) | ATTAIN-1 [12] | Obesity | 72 wk | ≈30-35%, dose-dependent | Placebo |
| Cagrisema 2.4/2.4 mg weekly | REDEFINE 1 [13] | Obesity | 68 wk | Nausea in the same band as semaglutide 2.4 mg, not obviously additive | Placebo and monocomponent arms |
Figures I am confident of to the decimal are given to the decimal; the rest are given with an approximation mark because the exact safety-table cell varies by trial publication and appendix, and I would rather flag that than present a rounded number as precise.
Does incidence rise with final dose?
Within a trial, only weakly, and it stops rising before the dose does. SURMOUNT-1 is the clearest demonstration in the table: 24.6% at 5 mg, 33.3% at 10 mg, 31.0% at 15 mg. The 15 mg arm did not report more nausea than the 10 mg arm despite receiving 50% more drug. That is not noise, and it is not a fluke of one trial; the same flattening or slight reversal appears across the SURPASS programme.
The explanation is that everyone in both arms passed through the same escalation ladder. The 15 mg arm's nausea was mostly generated at 2.5 mg, 5 mg and 7.5 mg, exactly as the 10 mg arm's was, and by the time they reached 12.5 mg the emetic pathway had already adapted. Cumulative incidence over 72 weeks therefore mostly counts titration events, and titration is nearly identical between arms.
How much is the molecule and how much is the schedule
More of it is the schedule than the class-comparison articles admit. Three lines of evidence:
- SURPASS-2 put tirzepatide against semaglutide 1 mg head-to-head and found comparable nausea, which is awkward for any story in which GIP co-agonism intrinsically changes tolerability much in either direction.
- STEP 8 put semaglutide against liraglutide head-to-head. Nausea incidence was comparable; discontinuation for adverse events was four times higher on liraglutide. Same symptom rate, very different tolerability outcome, which tells you incidence alone is a poor tolerability metric.
- The retatrutide phase 2 trial contained arms reaching the same final dose by different escalation speeds, and the slower ladder produced fewer gastrointestinal events. That is a within-trial, randomised demonstration that rate matters independently of level, which is the cleanest evidence in the whole area.
How to use the table
Do not read across rows as a ranking. The populations differ (diabetes lowers reported nausea consistently, for reasons that are not fully settled but probably include gastroparesis-adapted baseline and different concomitant therapy), the durations differ by a factor of three, and the escalation schedules differ substantially. What the table supports is narrower and still useful: nausea is reported by roughly a quarter to a half of people at some point on a full-dose agent, by 10-17% of people given a placebo injection, and the drug-attributable increment is therefore in the region of 15-30 percentage points rather than the headline 30-45%.
edited 6 Nov 2024 by forty_two_c — clarified the distinction between purity and content
4The 15 mg arm having less nausea than the 10 mg arm is the single most clarifying number here and it is in the main NEJM table where anyone could have read it. – sample_id 8 months ago 3Worth repeating that the placebo arms are injecting something weekly and reading a symptom diary. That is not a nothing condition. – plate_count_9k 6 months ago 6STEP 8 showing equal nausea and quadruple discontinuation is a good argument for reporting time-weighted symptom burden rather than ever/never incidence. – p_mkhize 5 months ago add a comment