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Is a wine cooler good enough for storing reconstituted survodutide?

Asked 17 Jun 2024Modified 22 months agoViewed 50k times
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The specifics, since they change the answer: a wine cooler · survodutide.

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askedmira_sundqvist7.1k1517 Jun 2024
2Add the diluent — a preservative changes the in-use period entirely. – tare_and_weigh 9 months ago
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Answer first: dry, cold, dark and still, with the lot code where you can still read it in a year.

Lyophilised powder: refrigerated at two to eight degrees for months, frozen at minus twenty for longer. The gain from minus eighty over minus twenty is small for a dry solid and is not usually worth the arrangement.

Degradation pathway by condition

PathwayDominant whenDetected by
DeamidationSolution, neutral to alkaline pHRP-HPLC, +1 Da on MS
OxidationLight, trace metals, peroxidesRP-HPLC, +16 Da on MS
HydrolysisSolution, extremes of pHRP-HPLC, fragment masses
AggregationAgitation, interfaces, high concentrationSEC, visual haze; often invisible on RP-HPLC
Freeze-concentration damageFreeze-thaw of buffered solutionSEC, loss of recovered content

Position matters less than people think: upright or on its side makes no difference to a lyophilised powder, and upright is marginally better for a reconstituted vial because it keeps the stopper dry.

Two-to-eight-degree refrigeration and minus-twenty freezing are the standard storage conditions for lyophilised peptides in supplier documentation across the market.

The caveat is that storage conditions preserve what you have and cannot improve it.

Minus eighty buys very little over minus twenty for a dry solid.

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answered · acceptedmeniscus_film32k277 Sept 2024
6This should be linked from the help pages. – Dr_Priya_Raghunathan 7 months ago
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On the detail: the relevant practical failure is not chemical at all: it is losing the link between a vial and its certificate when the box gets thrown away.

Label the vial at reconstitution with the date, the concentration and the resulting units per dose. This is the single most useful thirty seconds in the whole process.

Store with the desiccant sachet if one was supplied, inside the secondary container rather than loose in a drawer. Residual moisture is the dominant variable in solid-state stability.

The 28-day in-use period for preservative-containing multi-dose preparations is printed on the diluent labelling and is a long-standing pharmacy convention.

Label the vial at reconstitution with date, concentration and units per dose.

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answeredh_villanueva70k4829 Sept 2024
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The short version: powder in the freezer or fridge, reconstituted in the fridge for weeks, and never anything on a windowsill.

Keep vials in their original carton or in an opaque box. Light exposure matters for tryptophan-containing sequences and for anything with a chromophore, and a closed box is free.

The relevant detail is that reconstituted with a preservative-containing diluent: refrigerated, conventionally treated as usable for about 28 days from first entry. Without a preservative, single use and discard.

A printed expiry on research-grade material has no stability programme behind it.

Equilibrate before opening or you condense water into the cake.

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answeredcoldpack_8850k3718 Sept 2024
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Stated carefully, this is the tag where the advice is cheapest to follow and most often ignored.

Let a refrigerated or frozen vial equilibrate to room temperature before opening, so humid air does not condense water onto a cold cake.

Photodegradation of tryptophan-containing peptides is documented and is the basis for light-protected storage recommendations.

Keep the desiccant with the vial and the certificate with the lot code.

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answeredDr_Signe_Baldursdottir29k2727 Aug 2024
2Same experience here, different supplier. – g_paskevicius 5 months ago
3Does the same reasoning apply to material already in solution, or is that a different curve? – laminar_bench 7 months ago
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Keep the paperwork with the material, or the material becomes anonymous.

Keep the certificate with the vial, physically or as a photograph filed under the lot code. A vial without a traceable certificate is an anonymous vial regardless of where it came from.

Residual moisture is the dominant determinant of solid-state stability, which is why desiccants accompany lyophilised material.

Dry, cold, dark, still. Four words and you have the answer.

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answeredkirsi_lahtinen25k2716 Jul 2024
3I would add a sentence about light, since tryptophan-containing sequences care. – Dr_Signe_Baldursdottir 5 months ago
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