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Is 2 mg/mL a sensible working concentration for survodutide, or should I go lower?

Asked 24 Sept 2025Modified 7 months agoViewed 11k times
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The particulars: 2 mg/mL · survodutide.

The comparison I want does not seem to exist anywhere in a form I can evaluate.

I have read the arguments for each and they do not engage with each other.

What does each option buy me, and what does it cost me?

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askedshear_at_the_front17k2724 Sept 2025
4Same question, and I got two answers that differ by a factor of ten, so I am watching this. – a_lindgren 22 days ago
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At 2 mg/mL a 0.25 mg draw is 12.5 units on a U-100 barrel and a 2.4 mg draw is 120. Those two numbers decide it, because the concentration is only sensible relative to the smallest and largest volumes you will actually measure with it. 120 units will not fit a 1 mL U-100 barrel in one draw, which makes the large end the constraint rather than the small one. The other consideration is time: a vial you will finish in a fortnight can be concentrated, and a vial you will draw from for months should be split at reconstitution instead.

The short version: more diluent means a lower concentration, a larger volume per dose and a finer reading; less means the opposite.

Worked example. A 10 mg vial reconstituted with 2 mL gives 5 mg/mL. A 0.5 mg dose is 0.5 ÷ 5 = 0.1 mL, which on a U-100 syringe is 10 units. Reconstitute the same vial with 1 mL and the concentration doubles to 10 mg/mL, the same dose becomes 0.05 mL, and you are now reading 5 units instead of 10 — the same dose at half the resolution.

In practice, dead-space loss scales with the number of draws, not with the concentration, so a lower concentration spread over more draws loses proportionally less of the total peptide.

U-100 means 100 units per millilitre by definition, so 1 unit is 0.01 mL and volume in millilitres times one hundred gives units. Every conversion here reduces to that.

The caveat is that this arithmetic assumes the vial contains what the label says, and without a content assay it is precise about an unknown quantity.

Check the vial can physically hold the volume before you draw it up.

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answered · acceptedlyoph_cake78k26712 Jan 2026
Would this be different for a peptide that foams? Mine does and I have never known why. – ravi_pillai 8 months ago
Adding that a fixed-needle syringe loses about a tenth of what a luer one does. – tess_amankwah 10 months ago
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Aim for a dose volume somewhere between about 10 and 30 units on a U-100 barrel and the reading problem disappears.

The other direction: 10 mg in 3 mL is 3.33 mg/mL, and a 0.5 mg dose becomes 0.15 mL, or 15 units. More barrel, easier reading, and a larger fraction of the vial volume lost to dead space across the same number of draws.

Round to a diluent volume you can measure accurately. Measuring 1.00 mL on a 1 mL syringe is reliable; measuring 1.37 mL on anything is not, and the error propagates into every dose.

A concentration calculated to three decimal places from a diluent volume measured to one is false precision.

Measure a volume you can actually measure. Round numbers, real syringes.

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answeredclaudia_ferrante22k271 Jan 2026
3The arithmetic checks out. I ran the same numbers and got the same result. – lyoph_cake 5 months ago
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The honest answer is that a wide range of volumes works and that the extremes at either end cause avoidable problems.

Content matters. If the same 10 mg vial assays at 94 per cent content, you have 9.4 mg. In 2 mL that is 4.7 mg/mL, and a nominal 0.5 mg draw of 10 units actually delivers 0.47 mg — a six per cent shortfall that no amount of careful drawing will fix.

On the detail: for a dose that will change during titration, choose the volume for the largest intended dose rather than the first, so the whole schedule fits on one barrel without a mid-vial recalculation.

Nominal vial volumes in the standard 2R and 3R glass sizes have published brimful capacities well above the nominal fill, but the usable volume is bounded by the stopper displacement.

Nothing here is medical advice, and research-use material is not approved for human use.

Concentration equals content over volume, and content is not label claim.

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answeredDr_Idris_Coulibaly33k13721 Dec 2025
5Two of us worked through this independently and arrived here, so at least it reproduces. – kwn_analytical 8 months ago
6Worth flagging that the U-40 syringes still exist and this arithmetic does not apply to them. – Dr_Lena_Ostrowska 10 months ago
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Total vial volume is a physical constraint: most 2 mL vials will not take 3 mL of anything.

Vial headspace is the hard constraint. A nominal 2 mL vial typically holds a little over 2 mL to the shoulder; adding 3 mL is not an option and attempting it wastes the lot.

Published content assay results across the independent testing services show nominal and measured content differing by one to ten per cent, which makes content the dominant term in dose error.

Do not change the diluent volume between vials of a titration without recalculating; it is the commonest source of a ten-fold error.

Write the concentration on the label at reconstitution, in units per dose.

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answeredt_oyelaran79k489 Nov 2025
5I have added the label-the-vial suggestion to my own notes. Obvious in hindsight. – ekaterina_volk 4 months ago
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Answering this needs the syringe you actually own, because the barrel graduations decide what "readable" means.

Write the concentration and the resulting units-per-dose on the vial label at reconstitution. The arithmetic that is obvious now will not be obvious at six in the morning three weeks from now.

Insulin syringe barrel graduations are typically 1 unit on a 0.3 mL barrel, 1 unit on a 0.5 mL barrel and 2 units on a 1 mL barrel, which is why the barrel size changes what is readable.

None of the above is a recommendation to administer anything. Research-use-only material is not approved for human use, and the arithmetic being correct does not make the decision safe.

Choose the volume that puts your largest intended dose between 10 and 30 units. Everything else follows.

edited 6 Oct 2025 by t_oyelaran — reworded for clarity after a comment

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answeredt_oyelaran79k4825 Sept 2025

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