Setup, so nobody has to ask: orforglipron · 3.33 mg/mL.
I have worked this out and I would like someone to find the error, because I suspect there is one.
My working so far, for the record, is below, and I am fairly sure the error is in the unit conversion rather than the algebra.
Where is my error, and what is the correct working?
3.33 mg/mL is 3330 µg/mL — roughly 333 times the concentration at which surface adsorption is measurable. Losses to glass and plastic matter in the low microgram-per-millilitre range, where a monolayer on the wall is a real fraction of what is in solution. At 3.33 mg/mL that same monolayer is a rounding error. If you see an apparent loss at this concentration, suspect the dilution step or the assay before you suspect the wall.
This is answerable from the chemistry rather than from anecdote, which is unusual and welcome.
Aggregation is physical: peptides unfold at air-liquid interfaces and associate. Shaking maximises that interface, which is why swirling and shaking produce visibly different outcomes on the same vial.
| State | Condition | Usable window | Basis |
|---|---|---|---|
| Lyophilised solid | −20 °C, sealed, dry | 24–36 months | Supplier guidance |
| Lyophilised solid | 2–8 °C, sealed | 12–24 months | Supplier guidance |
| Lyophilised solid | 25 °C, sealed | 4–8 weeks | Extrapolated (Arrhenius) |
| Lyophilised solid | 40 °C, sealed | 1–2 weeks | Extrapolated |
| Solution, preserved | 2–8 °C | 28 days | USP microbiological convention |
| Solution, preserved | 25 °C | 3–7 days | Extrapolated |
| Solution, unpreserved | 2–8 °C | 24 hours | USP microbiological convention |
Windows for the solid state are chemical; windows for solution are microbiological and usually shorter than the chemical limit.
Put another way, deamidation converts asparagine or glutamine to the corresponding acid via a succinimide intermediate, adding one dalton. It is base-catalysed, accelerates above neutral pH and is the dominant aqueous pathway for many peptides.
Metal-catalysed oxidation of methionine is documented across peptide and protein formulations and is why chelators appear in some formulations.
Swirl, never shake. Aggregation is a handling problem more than a time problem.
HPLC purity, identity confirmation and quantified content on the vial you actually hold. Reports arrive with the chromatogram attached, not just a number.
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Visit GL BiochemAnswering this needs the physical state, since a dry powder is protected from most of these and a solution is protected from none.
Oxidation targets methionine, cysteine and tryptophan, adding sixteen daltons per oxygen. It is catalysed by trace metals and promoted by dissolved oxygen and by light.
Freeze-thaw cycling drives aggregation through concentration at the ice interface and pH shifts as buffer components crystallise out at different rates. Each cycle costs something.
A mass spectrum names the pathway. Plus one, plus sixteen, minus eighteen.
The honest answer is that most reported "degradation" is adsorption and dilution error rather than chemistry.
Adsorption onto glass and plastic is significant at low concentrations — micrograms per millilitre — and negligible at milligrams per millilitre. It is the usual explanation for an apparent loss in a dilute preparation.
A mass spectrum resolves most of this: minus eighteen is dehydration or succinimide, plus one is deamidation, plus sixteen is oxidation, and an unchanged mass with a shifted retention time is an isomer.
Adsorption losses at low concentrations are quantified in formulation studies and are the reason carrier proteins are used in dilute preparations.
At dilute concentrations, suspect adsorption before you suspect chemistry.
edited 31 Jan 2025 by greta_holzmann — corrected a unit error in the worked example
Answer first: the degradation pathways worth knowing are hydrolysis, deamidation, oxidation, aggregation and adsorption, and each has a different trigger and a different mitigation.
Hydrolysis cleaves the backbone, most readily at aspartate-proline and aspartate-glycine sequences, and is acid-catalysed. In a dry solid it barely proceeds at all.
Cold, dry, dark, still. Those four words cover most of the mitigation.
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