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Does a large published testing history at TFC imply lot consistency?

Asked 8 Jul 2024Modified 21 months agoViewed 43k times
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I am comparing a supplier certificate against an independent result on the same lot.

This is one of those things that everyone repeats and nobody derives.

This matters practically, not just academically, because it changes what I would do next.

Why does this happen, and what would falsify the usual explanation?

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askedravi_pillai16k288 Jul 2024

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A certificate that reports one test result on one vial extrapolates to claim that all two hundred vials in the lot are identical, which is an assumption worth questioning.

If the entire lot failed qualification, a retest on a different vial is sometimes done, but reporting a retest result under the same lot number is misleading.

If the lot was manufactured in multiple batches, testing vials from each batch separately establishes whether batch-to-batch variation is acceptable.

Published data on lot homogeneity from manufacturers who sample multiple vials consistently find variation below the published specifications, suggesting the sampling plans work.

If testing multiple vials, state how many you tested and why you chose those vials.

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answeredmarta_okonkwo87k25820 Jul 2024
5I would add a sentence about sterility here, since it is the thing people skip. – e_dziedzic 2 months ago
6The placebo-arm figure is the part everyone omits. – ellis_thorne 4 months ago
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Worth being precise here: two vials tested from a lot of ten is very different from two vials tested from a lot of ten thousand, and most certificates do not state the lot size.

Under AQL sampling plans, testing two vials from a fifty-vial lot gives you an operating characteristic curve that tells you what risks you are accepting.

Stated carefully, if you have reason to suspect inhomogeneity — different appearance in different vials, or a long or warm shipment — testing more vials is the diagnostic move.

Lyophilised peptide homogeneity studies show that vial-to-vial variation is usually small but occasionally large, depending on the distribution in the freeze-dryer.

The practical summary: a lot number without a sampling statement is a lot number without meaning.

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answeredv_ramaswamy40k3831 Jul 2024
4The timing signature is the useful part. Everything else is confounded. – Dr_Bram_Verhoeven 9 months ago
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The part that matters: the single most misleading statement on a research-grade certificate is a lot number with no statement of how many vials from that lot were tested.

The statistical foundation here is well-established, which is why sampling plans from decades ago are still valid.

The sample size determination requires choosing a confidence level and an acceptable error rate, and the smaller the error rate you want, the larger your sample must be.

Sampling plans for pharmaceutical manufacturing are defined in ISO 2859 and ANSI Z1.4, and they are based on statistical sampling theory.

Assume segregation is possible, and design your sampling to catch it if it exists.

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answeredDr_Hanne_Solberg40k3826 Oct 2024

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