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What is the reported incidence of hair thinning on oral semaglutide in PIONEER-1?

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Setup, so nobody has to ask: hair thinning · oral semaglutide · PIONEER-1.

I have read the primary source rather than the summary, which has left me with more questions.

I understand the headline. I do not understand the footnotes, and the footnotes look important.

What can I legitimately conclude from this figure?

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askedesben_lykke84k15827 May 2024

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Take it from the PIONEER-1 adverse-event table by arm, and check the unit before you use it. An incidence can be the proportion of participants who reported the event at least once, or the count of events divided by exposure time, and the two differ by however many people had it repeatedly. Then subtract the placebo arm, because the untreated rate is not zero. And read the discontinuation column beside it: an event that made people leave the trial is under-counted at every later visit, so a low late-timepoint incidence can mean the event was severe rather than rare.

Start with the timing, because telogen effluvium has a characteristic delay of two to four months between the trigger and the shed.

The trigger in this context is the rate of weight loss and the associated nutritional deficit, not a pharmacological property. The same phenomenon is well documented after bariatric surgery, illness and childbirth.

Gastrointestinal adverse events, indicative pooled rates

EventActive armPlacebo armTiming
Nausea40–45 %15–20 %Peaks 1–2 wk after each step
Vomiting15–25 %5–8 %Follows nausea
Diarrhoea20–30 %10–15 %Early, variable
Constipation20–25 %8–12 %Later onset, persistent
Discontinuation for GI events4–7 %1–2 %Mostly during escalation

Ranges span agents and doses; read the specific prescribing information for a specific figure.

Adequate protein matters. Hair is largely keratin, and follicles are among the most metabolically active tissues, so they are early casualties of a substantial protein shortfall.

The two-to-four-month latency follows directly from the duration of the telogen phase and is the diagnostic feature of the condition.

Research-use compounds are not approved for human use.

The trigger is the rate of loss, not the compound. Slowing it helps future follicles.

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answeredDr_Otto_Lindqvist72k5823 Aug 2024
8The red-flag list should be higher up the answer, not at the bottom. – lyoph_cake 31 days ago
7Any published figure for how long the constipation persists, given it does not attenuate? – w_okoye 9 months ago
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The short version: diffuse rather than patterned, delayed rather than immediate, self-limiting, and driven by the rate of loss rather than by the compound.

Worth checking: ferritin, thyroid function and vitamin D. Low ferritin in particular is associated with shedding at levels that are not low enough to cause anaemia.

Recovery follows the same timeline in reverse: shedding stops within a few months of the trigger resolving, and visible density returns over six to twelve months as regrowth reaches length.

The caveat is that patterned loss, scalp inflammation, scarring or loss with other systemic symptoms is a dermatological problem and not this.

It resolves in most cases over six to twelve months. That is genuinely the answer.

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answeredravi_pillai12k173 Sept 2024
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Answering this needs the rate of weight loss and the protein intake, since those are the two modifiable contributors.

In telogen effluvium a stressor shifts a large fraction of follicles from anagen into telogen simultaneously. Because telogen lasts around two to three months, the shed appears two to four months after the trigger rather than during it.

Concretely, nothing topical has strong evidence for accelerating recovery from telogen effluvium specifically, as distinct from androgenetic loss where the evidence is entirely different.

Recovery of density over six to twelve months is the typical reported course where the trigger has resolved.

Protein intake is the modifiable nutritional factor worth attending to.

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answeredpieter_maas14k1715 Sept 2024
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The relevant biology is that a stressor pushes hair follicles synchronously from the growth phase into the resting phase, and the shed happens when they exit it.

Slowing the rate of weight loss reduces the severity of the trigger. It does not reverse a shed already in progress, because the follicles have already committed.

Low ferritin is associated with increased shedding in observational studies at thresholds above those used to define anaemia.

Diffuse and delayed means telogen effluvium. Patterned means something else.

edited 16 Jun 2024 by teodora_ilic — reworded for clarity after a comment

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answeredteodora_ilic17k2729 May 2024
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The part that matters: this is one of the most distressing reported effects and one of the most reliably temporary.

It is diffuse: increased shedding across the whole scalp, often noticed in the shower or on a brush, without a receding hairline or a defined crown pattern. Patterned loss is androgenetic and unrelated.

Telogen effluvium following rapid weight loss is well documented in the dermatological literature, including extensive description after bariatric surgery.

Check ferritin, thyroid and vitamin D once, then stop investigating.

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answeredDr_Colm_Fitzhenry69k24710 Jul 2024

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Ask PeptideStack is a static archive. Posting is closed, but the norms are worth stating: answer the question that was asked, show your working, cite the trial or the certificate, and say plainly where the evidence runs out.

Not medical advice. Research-use-only compounds are not approved for human use.