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What does SELECT actually establish about a GLP-1 receptor agonist?

Asked 11 Nov 2024Modified 17 months agoViewed 9.1k times
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Setup, so nobody has to ask: SELECT · a GLP-1 receptor agonist.

I have read the primary source rather than the summary, which has left me with more questions.

I understand the headline. I do not understand the footnotes, and the footnotes look important.

What would I need in addition before this supported a decision?

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askedgel_pack_warm13k2711 Nov 2024
Add whether the comparator was placebo or an active agent. – ines_brandt 5 months ago
Voting to keep this open — it is more specific than it first looks. – esther_vandeVelde 4 months ago
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Start with what the trial was powered for. Everything else in the publication is secondary, exploratory, or a subgroup, and those three words mean three different things.

Open-label extensions are not the same evidence as the randomised phase. Once everyone knows what they are taking, the reported outcomes acquire a bias that no analysis fully removes.

Intention-to-treat and per-protocol analyses answer different questions. ITT asks what happens if you offer the treatment; per-protocol asks what happens if it is taken as directed. The gap between the two is a measure of how tolerable the protocol was.

Where a result is quoted from a conference abstract rather than a peer-reviewed publication, the numbers routinely move between the two. It is worth checking which one you are reading.

I am not a clinician and this is not medical advice; it is a reading of a published protocol.

If a claim cannot be traced to a named trial with a named endpoint, treat it as a claim rather than as evidence.

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answered · acceptedDr_Ilse_Vandenberg113k24820 Dec 2024
3I would gently push back — that was a secondary endpoint, not the primary one. – dermot_kiely 8 months ago
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Before comparing two trials, check whether they share an endpoint definition. Frequently they do not, and the numbers then are not comparable in any sense.

A composite endpoint is only as informative as its least serious component. Where a cardiovascular composite combines death, infarction and stroke, ask which component moved, because they are not interchangeable outcomes.

More usefully, non-inferiority and superiority designs are not interchangeable. A non-inferiority result says the new agent is not meaningfully worse against a pre-specified margin — it does not say it is as good, and it certainly does not say it is better.

The caveat is that trial evidence is about licensed product administered under supervision. None of it transfers automatically to research-grade material of unverified content.

When two sources disagree, the answer is almost always in the methods section of the one you have not read.

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answeredDr_Ilse_Vandenberg113k24831 Dec 2024
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The short version: the effect is real, the magnitude depends on the population, and the population is usually the part that gets dropped when a result is quoted second-hand.

Placebo arms in this class are not nothing. Lifestyle-intervention placebo arms in the major obesity trials commonly lose two to three per cent of body weight, so an active-arm figure quoted without its comparator overstates the drug effect by roughly that much.

Specifically, duration decides what can be seen. A 68-week trial can measure weight and glycaemia; it cannot measure anything whose event rate is one per cent per year without enrolling tens of thousands.

Meta-analyses in this area are dominated by whichever trial contributed the most participants, so read the forest plot rather than the summary estimate.

The short version: check the endpoint, check the comparator, check who was excluded, then look at the number.

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answeredDr_Ilse_Vandenberg113k24811 Jan 2025
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The honest answer here is that the published evidence supports part of the claim and is silent on the rest, and it is worth being precise about which part is which.

Trial populations are selected. Exclusion criteria in this class routinely remove people with significant renal impairment, prior pancreatitis and unstable psychiatric illness, which is exactly the population the results are then quoted for.

One qualification: absence of a signal in a trial of this size is not evidence of absence for a rare event. It is evidence that the event is rarer than the trial could detect.

Read the protocol and the statistical analysis plan if the result matters to you. Both are usually published alongside.

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answeredanouk_desmet16k3822 Feb 2025
5Which population was that figure from? It moves a lot between the trials. – Dr_Bram_Verhoeven 6 months ago
6Minor: the trial name is hyphenated in the original publication. – jana_horakova 8 months ago
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More usefully, a trial establishes what happened to a defined group under a defined protocol. Extending it beyond that group is inference, and inference is allowed as long as it is labelled.

Confidence intervals matter more than point estimates when two trials disagree. Two studies reporting fifteen and twenty per cent whose intervals overlap heavily have not disagreed about anything.

Registry entries at ClinicalTrials.gov carry the pre-specified primary endpoint with a timestamp, which is the cheapest available check on whether an endpoint was changed after the data were seen.

Quote the interval alongside the estimate and half the disagreements on this site would not start.

edited 20 Dec 2024 by plate_count_9k — expanded the table to cover the lower concentration

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answeredplate_count_9k78k2488 Dec 2024
2Absolute risk reduction rather than relative would make this much more useful. – vial_five 4 months ago
Worth flagging that this changed with the 2025 publication, so older answers are out of date. – tobias_maartens 3 months ago
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