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Is a 97.9% result from Janoshik comparable to 99.1% from Medutest?

Asked 19 Mar 2024Modified 2.1 years agoViewed 25k times
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Details up front: 97.9% · Janoshik · 99.1% · Medutest.

I have used one of these for a while and I am considering switching, which requires a reason.

What I care about is reproducibility, because a result I cannot repeat is not useful to me.

Which axes does this decision turn on?

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askedtare_and_weigh18k2819 Mar 2024
The arithmetic checks out. I ran the same numbers and got the same result. – h_pergande 9 months ago
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Purity is a method-dependent figure, and that is not a limitation of the measurement, it is a property of what the measurement actually answers.

Gradient slope controls resolution, and gentler slopes resolve co-eluting impurities into separate peaks — so the better method reports the worse purity number.

In practice, retention time is sequence-specific and method-specific, so comparing your result to a supplier value using a different method is meaningless without method documentation.

I would be careful about over-reading a single measurement — treat it as a data point, not as ground truth.

The practical summary: ask for the chromatogram and the method, and ignore the headline number until you have both.

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answeredloss_on_drying47k1389 Jul 2024
3The arithmetic checks out. I ran the same numbers and got the same result. – Dr_Fatima_Belkacem 2 months ago
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Gradient slope is the most powerful parameter and almost nobody mentions it, which is why two reports on the same material disagree by a point.

Sample solvent strength affects peak shape — if you inject in strong solvent on a gradient starting in weak solvent, the solvent peak can distort your main peak or create a false shoulder.

Mobile phase additive choice affects ionisation and peak shape — TFA gives sharp peaks but suppresses mass spectrometry signal, formic acid gives worse peaks but preserves signal.

Published side-by-side method comparisons show that a two-point difference in purity on the same vial is easily explained by method choice alone.

If you are ranking vendors, specify a method and have all samples tested at the same place.

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answeredDr_Yusuf_Adeyemi95k24828 Jun 2024
7Two of us worked through this independently and arrived here, so it is at least reproducible. – ruaidhri_o_shea 9 months ago
6Worth adding that the method section is where the answer usually is. – kwn_analytical 7 months ago
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Start from what the detector sees, because that tells you what the number means.

Integration of the shoulder — whether you use perpendicular drop or tangent skim — determines what area gets assigned to the main peak versus the impurity table.

In practice, mass on column affects detector linearity and peak overlap — overloading broadens peaks and hides neighbours, while underloading improves resolution but loses sensitivity.

The ICH Q3A impurity thresholds and the relevant pharmacopoeial chapters all specify method validation requirements that almost no research-grade certificate claims to meet.

Compare purity within a single laboratory on the same method, never across laboratories.

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answeredDr_Aoife_Brennan50k482 Apr 2024
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More usefully, the short answer is that two competent laboratories on identical material will disagree, and the disagreement is almost always explainable by method differences.

Column pore size affects mass transfer — a 100 Angstrom packing on a 5 kDa peptide restricts diffusion, broadening the peak and potentially hiding small impurities in the shoulders.

The limitation is that single-digit micro-impurities become invisible at typical reporting thresholds, so "no impurities detected" means "none above one in two thousand."

The practical summary: ask for the chromatogram and the method, and ignore the headline number until you have both.

edited 28 Mar 2024 by tobias_reint — fixed an arithmetic slip in the third paragraph

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answeredtobias_reint19k2722 Mar 2024
7This matches what I was told by a laboratory, for whatever that is worth. – e_dziedzic 8 months ago
6Minor: the trial name is hyphenated in the original publication. – Dr_Jonas_Halvorsen 6 months ago
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Concretely, read the chromatogram before you read the number, because the number without the trace is not a measurement, it is a claim.

Temperature affects the dynamics of molecular conformation, and if a peptide has proline residues that interconvert on the chromatographic timescale, the peak will split or shoulder at low temperature and collapse at high temperature.

Inter-laboratory studies on identical peptide material routinely find half-a-per-cent to a full-per-cent spreads in reported purity on the same sample.

Worth noting that method standardisation is poor in the research-grade space compared to pharmaceutical work, so identical-looking methods can produce different results.

If you are ranking vendors, specify a method and have all samples tested at the same place.

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answeredines_brandt93k24825 Apr 2024
5Useful. I have added the accept threshold suggestion to my own notes. – plate_count_9k 8 months ago
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