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Does hydrolysis of orforglipron at 40 °C show up as a loss of content or of purity?

Asked 30 May 2024Modified 2.0 years agoViewed 45k times
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What I have: hydrolysis · orforglipron · 40 °C.

I suspect the usual explanation for this is wrong, or at least incomplete.

I am aware this may have a boring answer. I would still like the boring answer stated clearly.

What is actually going on here, physically?

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askedmarta_okonkwo190k25830 May 2024

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At 40 °C it can show up as either, and which one depends entirely on whether the product still elutes under the main peak. Purity is a ratio of areas, so a degradant only costs purity if the method resolves it. Content is a mass against a standard, so a degradant costs content whenever the parent is consumed — resolved or not. Backbone amide bonds cleave, so every product is shorter than the parent and the mass ladder they leave behind is the evidence that it happened. That is why the two measurements are not interchangeable and why an unchanged purity figure after an excursion to 40 °C is weak evidence: the method may simply be integrating the degradant along with the parent and reporting the sum as one peak.

The short version: water enables most of it, oxygen enables oxidation, surfaces enable adsorption, and agitation enables aggregation.

Hydrolysis cleaves the backbone, most readily at aspartate-proline and aspartate-glycine sequences, and is acid-catalysed. In a dry solid it barely proceeds at all.

To be exact about it, adsorption onto glass and plastic is significant at low concentrations — micrograms per millilitre — and negligible at milligrams per millilitre. It is the usual explanation for an apparent loss in a dilute preparation.

Deamidation via the succinimide intermediate is well characterised, with sequence-dependent rates highest for asparagine-glycine motifs.

The caveat is that none of these pathways can be seen by looking at a vial, and a clear solution can be substantially degraded.

Cold, dry, dark, still. Those four words cover most of the mitigation.

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answered · accepteds_bhattacharya31k3814 Jul 2024
I have kept vials both ways for a year and this matches what I saw. – petra_hovland 4 months ago
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Start with the sequence, because which pathways are available depends on which residues are present.

Deamidation converts asparagine or glutamine to the corresponding acid via a succinimide intermediate, adding one dalton. It is base-catalysed, accelerates above neutral pH and is the dominant aqueous pathway for many peptides.

It helps to be literal here: light exposure matters for tryptophan-containing sequences and for anything with a chromophore. Amber vials and a closed box are free mitigations.

Sequence determines which pathways apply, so general statements are general.

Sequence decides which pathways are even available. Check the residues.

edited 5 Jul 2024 by marta_okonkwo — tightened the wording; no substantive change

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answeredmarta_okonkwo190k25822 Jun 2024
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Answer first: the degradation pathways worth knowing are hydrolysis, deamidation, oxidation, aggregation and adsorption, and each has a different trigger and a different mitigation.

Aggregation is physical: peptides unfold at air-liquid interfaces and associate. Shaking maximises that interface, which is why swirling and shaking produce visibly different outcomes on the same vial.

On the detail: freeze-thaw cycling drives aggregation through concentration at the ice interface and pH shifts as buffer components crystallise out at different rates. Each cycle costs something.

Apparent loss in a dilute preparation is usually adsorption rather than degradation and is worth ruling out first.

At dilute concentrations, suspect adsorption before you suspect chemistry.

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answeredDr_Rosalind_Achebe69k14711 Jun 2024
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The relevant point is that a mass shift of plus one dalton is deamidation and plus sixteen is oxidation, so degradation is often visible in a mass spectrum if anyone looks.

A mass spectrum resolves most of this: minus eighteen is dehydration or succinimide, plus one is deamidation, plus sixteen is oxidation, and an unchanged mass with a shifted retention time is an isomer.

Metal-catalysed oxidation of methionine is documented across peptide and protein formulations and is why chelators appear in some formulations.

A mass spectrum names the pathway. Plus one, plus sixteen, minus eighteen.

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answeredkwn_analytical147k3583 Jul 2024
5Small correction: it is the number of cycles rather than the freezer temperature that does the damage. – b_delacroix 8 months ago
6Adding a vote because this deserves more of them. – tri_gly_ala 10 months ago
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Answering this needs the physical state, since a dry powder is protected from most of these and a solution is protected from none.

Oxidation targets methionine, cysteine and tryptophan, adding sixteen daltons per oxygen. It is catalysed by trace metals and promoted by dissolved oxygen and by light.

Aggregation at air-liquid interfaces is established from surface-tension and particle-count studies and is the basis for anti-agitation handling guidance.

Swirl, never shake. Aggregation is a handling problem more than a time problem.

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answeredmarta_okonkwo190k2586 Aug 2024

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